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hockey_fan on "Shiduchim, what else?"

if u have to pay someone off for a shidduch then trust me you're going to have a very difficult marriage

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hockey_fan on "Shiduchim, what else?"

@snowbunny613 so why not be the shadchan :) maybe through here we do but im not a "full-time" learning guy(which i believe she is looking for) and hope to be working primarily and learning iy"h in the...

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syeshiva on "Shiduchim, what else?"

hockey_fan : Why do you say that? i simply don't agree

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Nechomah on "Shiduchim, what else?"

GAC - I wanted to share with you a thought I had about the issue of pictures and "stunning girls". Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It could be that in America there is a certain standard to being...

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farrocks on "Shiduchim, what else?"

Nechomah: I'm not sure that your analogy is correct, as men and women are not looking for physical beauty in the same way. Men and women are different in this regard.

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hockey_fan on "Shiduchim, what else?"

@shaggersyeshiva.. so then plz explain what u are trying to say

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snowbunny3318 on "Shiduchim, what else?"

Hockey_fan: Get a clue said that she wants someone who will learn and then work. I understand that there are differences between what the two of you want, however, I personally feel that if you two...

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hockey_fan on "Shiduchim, what else?"

something in the computer industry ( IT, network support.. etc)

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snowbunny3318 on "Shiduchim, what else?"

Getaclue: What are you doing for a parnossah?

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snowbunny3318 on "Shiduchim, what else?"

Working in the high tech industry is a viable parnossah and if you end up moving to E"Y, you can find plenty of jobs here.

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hockey_fan on "Shiduchim, what else?"

going to israel isnt one of those things i look to do unless i have a job prior to moving there

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snowbunny3318 on "Shiduchim, what else?"

ok, i am not trying to promote aliyah here...

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hockey_fan on "Shiduchim, what else?"

i nvr said you were .. but i do agree with abt there being more tech jobs in israel

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rebdoniel on "Shiduchim, what else?"

I'm 22, and I would suggest that the best possible thing you can do is to not be too preoccupied. Focus now on your career, growing b'ruchnius, helping your parents, doing chesed, and when you feel...

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Getaclue on "Shiduchim, what else?"

It's been a while:) I am actly in the computer/ web industry myself! Although I appreciate the recent suggestion hockey fan and myself have been having marital spats with out the marriage! So think...

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hockey_fan on "Shiduchim, what else?"

who are u talking to ??

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hockey_fan on "Shiduchim, what else?"

@getaclue.. I nvr said a picture was required just could increase your chances because of the way guys are these days.. I guess you will find your husband being one that doesn't take looks into his...

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Getaclue on "Shiduchim, what else?"

Snow bunny

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hockey_fan on "Shiduchim, what else?"

@gac .. i was actually referring to rebdoniel .. but sometimes posts take a while to actually post

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snowbunny3318 on "Shiduchim, what else?"

ok, fine.

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hockey_fan on "Shiduchim, what else?"

@snowbunny3318.. maybe u could correct if im wrong. but i dont see that i was forcing my own opinion at all.. just stating the facts of todays generation

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snowbunny3318 on "Shiduchim, what else?"

Hockey_Fan, you were not forcing your opinion at all, you just wanted to help her.

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gemgirl on "Shiduchim, what else?"

hi everyone i have a problem PLEASE HELP ME! I really like the guy I am going out with. In fact, we are getting quite serious. But he was engaged to my best friend and he broke it off, three weeks into...

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interjection on "Shiduchim, what else?"

You broke the girl code. Girls don't go out with their friend's exes, unless with express prior permission.

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Curiosity on "Shiduchim, what else?"

That's not just girl code, that's guy code, too. You really should have seen this coming. It's too late now. You're going to have to choose one or the other, or try to get your friend to be okay with...

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hockey_fan on "Shiduchim, what else?"

i would ask your LOR if i were you

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Wisey on "Shiduchim, what else?"

I can't offer advice but I just wanted to tell you that I feel your difficulty and hope it gets resolved soon. Did you ask your friend why the engagement broke?

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princess17 on "Shiduchim, what else?"

gemgirl -i think you should ask a rav what to do. and ask the girl why the guy broke the engagement.?

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gemgirl on "Shiduchim, what else?"

firstly, let me make something clear- believe it or not i didn't realize it was him until our first date because he has a pretty common name and they broke their engagement over a year ago so none of...

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oomis on "Shiduchim, what else?"

There IS an unspoken code that you never go out with your friend's ex. BUT - you say she said it was ok with her, though clearly she does feel hurt (which is to be expected, as he broke an engagement...

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popa_bar_abba on "Shiduchim, what else?"

The bro code, I think it's called. Bros before women. (or something like that)

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OneOfMany on "Shiduchim, what else?"

Girls before churls.

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Torah613Torah on "Shiduchim, what else?"

I probably wouldn't know if it was my friends' ex. Who shares names when talking about shidduchim?Maybe my friends are special, but they wouldn't share names.***They were engaged, it is common once...

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farrocks on "Shiduchim, what else?"

It is complete baloney that a guy or girl cannot or should not go out with a friend's former date or even former engaged (now broken) shidduch. You can and should go out with him (or her) without...

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JustLogic on "Shiduchim, what else?"

Be real...

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Torah613Torah on "Shiduchim, what else?"

Thank you for explaining, Rabbi/Mr Moderator!

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Curiosity on "Shiduchim, what else?"

I have an interesting story for those of us in shidduchim... My friend studied in MTJ (Rabbi Feinstein's yeshiva). Once, my friend attended a wedding with R' Dovid Feinstein and he noticed that there...

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WIY on "Shiduchim, what else?"

Curiosity The shidduch system is supposed to vet prospective marriage partners so you dont waste endless hours dating people who are not for you. I can go chat up every girl I meet at a chasuna and...

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Curiosity on "Shiduchim, what else?"

WIY, I don't disagree with anything you said. However, you can still do the research on your own, or just keep your eyes open and if you see someone at a wedding that piques your interest, ask about...

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basyechida nomore on "Shiduchim, what else?"

Curiosity, in theory, your idea sounds great, but it's not for everyone. Since both genders don't normally mix in the Jewish world, many guys wouldn't know how to chat up a girl even if they had the...

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Curiosity on "Shiduchim, what else?"

That's true, but close to my point. Rav Feinstein obviously does not condone the fact that people in shidduchim refuse to mingle for the sake of shidduchim. It sounds like he holds it is proper...

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popa_bar_abba on "Shiduchim, what else?"

I also personally heard from a close talmid of Rav H. Leibowitz ZTZ"L that one time a certain Rav said girls should be "understanding" when dating yeshivah guys because they have no experience talking...

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Torah613Torah on "Shiduchim, what else?"

I don't buy into the idea that boys not having experience talking to girls, or knowing how to build a relationship, is part of the problem. Girls certainly don't need experience to figure out how to...

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WIY on "Shiduchim, what else?"

torah613613torah Guys are visual so yes if a girl dresses up...we will notice. Girls work differently or so I have been told :-) so what will make a girl notice a guy?

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popa_bar_abba on "Shiduchim, what else?"

I don't buy into the idea that boys not having experience talking to girls, or knowing how to build a relationship, is part of the problem. Girls certainly don't need experience to figure out how to...

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superstar on "Shiduchim, what else?"

@ WIY You said guys are visual and so if they see a girl they will make assumptions from what she looks like. Girls, I guess, are visual too but personality is a big thing. Also, girls can really...

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Curiosity on "Shiduchim, what else?"

Just as a correction, I checked with my source-it was r' Reuven Feinstein, not R' Dovid Feinstein who said this.

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WIY on "Shiduchim, what else?"

popa_bar_abba What do you mean when you say romantic feelings...?

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hockey_fan on "Shiduchim, what else?"

well its time to post that im off the market.. proposed on friday

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Torah613Torah on "Shiduchim, what else?"

Mazal tov, hockey_fan! May you build a BNB adei ad!

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